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Re: [Xaseco] Nouse Betting V1.4

Post by Olymptor » 28 Jan 2010 06:31

Example:

I bet 100 Copper (server pays 7c tax)
You accept 100 Copper (server pays 7c tax)

You win 200 Copper (server pays 12c tax)
=> 26c Tax in total

Now comes the Setting:
Factor 1: Server pays out 200c- 1 x 12c
Server loses 14c

Factor 2: Server pays out 200 - 2 x 12c
Server loses 2c (nearly nothing so to say)

Factor 3: Server pays out 200 - 3 x 12c
Server gains 10c
Thx to answer Nanir but you forgot betting tax i think

Factor 1 : server = 1000c for easier explication
Bet = 200 = server loses 14c (12c + 2) == 986
Pay out = 200 = server loses 14c (1 x 12c + 2c) = 972
So server loses 28c

Factor 2 : server = 1000c
Bet = 200 = server loses 14c (12c + 2) == 986
Pay out = 200 = server loses 2c (12 - 1 x 12c + 2c) = 984
So server loses 16c

Factor 3 : server = 1000c
Bet = 200 = server loses 14c (12c + 2) == 986
Pay out = 200 = server gains 10c (12 - 2 x 12c + 2c) = 996
So server loses 4c

Etc... agree with me ?
If it's wrong, then that is factor is apply also on bet, but
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Re: [Xaseco] Nouse Betting V1.4

Post by Nanir » 28 Jan 2010 11:48

Nanir wrote:If any coppers are transfered to or from the server, the server pays the tax.

So if someone Donates or bets 100 Copper, he will only get 100 coppers deducted from his account. And your server has to pay 2+5% (7 in this case for easier calculation) tax in advance.

Example:

I bet 100 Copper (server pays 7c tax, 7c=5c+2c=5% of 100c + 2c)
You accept 100 Copper (server pays 7c tax, again 7c=5c+2c= 5% of 100c + 2c)

You win 200 Copper (server pays 12c tax, 12c=10c+2c=5% of 200c + 2c)
=> 26c Tax in total

Now comes the Setting:
Factor 1: Server pays out 200c- 1 x 12c
Server loses 14c

Factor 2: Server pays out 200 - 2 x 12c
Server loses 2c (nearly nothing so to say)

Factor 3: Server pays out 200 - 3 x 12c
Server gains 10c
You got me wrong, there are no betting taxes.

Its always 5% + 2c, I already included the 2c, didnt think this could be overseen.

And the factor simply says how often this 5%+2 is deducted from the payout before you transfer it.

So in case of a Factor 10, you would deduct 50% +20 copper before paying out.

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Re: [Xaseco] Nouse Betting V1.4

Post by Olymptor » 29 Jan 2010 07:25

=> 26c Tax in total

Now comes the Setting:
Factor 1: Server pays out 200c- 1 x 12c
Server loses 14c
Hum... like you said before in factor 1 (server pay all tax)
Server loses 26c not only 14.

[EDIT] : errors in my post ^^ i edit it. But 26c is right

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Re: [Xaseco] Nouse Betting V1.4

Post by Nanir » 29 Jan 2010 13:07

Factor 0 is server pays all tax. In that case its of course:

Server pays out 200 and 26 tax, and makes 26 loss.

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Re: [Xaseco] Nouse Betting V1.4

Post by mixnetwork » 25 Feb 2010 10:04

Hi Guys,

I have a big problem using the betting plugin.

Somebody found a way to bet more than the 500 coppers and accept bets by himself, so he get paid 12.000 coppers, so he stole 6000 coppers from my server!!

Here you can see the logfile:

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[2010/02/24 19:44:19] <chat> [black_smegol ($w$f11S$f43M$we$f00GoL^  $w$444ELITE)] /bet 6000
[2010/02/24 19:44:20] <chat> [black_smegol ($w$f11S$f43M$we$f00GoL^  $w$444ELITE)] /bet 20
[2010/02/24 19:44:24] <chat> [space_3 ($t$o$F00Spacezone $00FMini $F80LOL)] $ff0> $w$f11S$f43M$we$f00GoL^  $w$444ELITE$g$z$6c0$s$i set 6000 coppers for next bet!
[2010/02/24 19:44:25] <chat> [space_3 ($t$o$F00Spacezone $00FMini $F80LOL)] $ff0> $w$f11S$f43M$we$f00GoL^  $w$444ELITE$g$z$9c0$s$i accepted bet! Total win is 12000 coppers now!
[2010/02/24 19:44:31] <chat> [black_smegol ($w$f11S$f43M$we$f00GoL^  $w$444ELITE)] allready 12k in ebt ogog
[2010/02/24 19:44:41] <chat> [hardstyle_jumpstyle ($9f3~ढ८~$0ffĦαѓďςtұlέ$F00_$FC0Јμмρςtұlέ<3)] are you cracy?^^
[2010/02/24 19:44:46] <chat> [hardstyle_jumpstyle ($9f3~ढ८~$0ffĦαѓďςtұlέ$F00_$FC0Јμмρςtұlέ<3)] z
[2010/02/24 19:44:50] <chat> [black_smegol ($w$f11S$f43M$we$f00GoL^  $w$444ELITE)] yea:D
[2010/02/24 19:45:02] <chat> [skryker (~ ढ८ ~$o$f93Chico$o$666 Chico $i$fff)] re
[2010/02/24 19:45:03] <chat> [skryker (~ ढ८ ~$o$f93Chico$o$666 Chico $i$fff)] was ist das
[2010/02/24 19:45:20] <time> [black_smegol ($w$f11S$f43M$we$f00GoL^  $w$444ELITE)] 0:27.95
[2010/02/24 19:45:20] <chat> [space_3 ($t$o$F00Spacezone $00FMini $F80LOL)] $ff0>> $fffSMeGoL^  ELITE$0f3 secured his/her $ff37$0f3. Local Record!  Time: $fff0:27.95$0f3 $n($ff37$fff-0.42$0f3)
[2010/02/24 19:45:20] <chat> [space_3 ($t$o$F00Spacezone $00FMini $F80LOL)] $ff0> $ff0Remember to vote karma ($fff/++$ff0 or $fff/--$ff0) for this track
[2010/02/24 19:45:20] <chat> [hardstyle_jumpstyle ($9f3~ढ८~$0ffĦαѓďςtұlέ$F00_$FC0Јμмρςtұlέ<3)] zurück
[2010/02/24 19:45:23] <chat> [hardstyle_jumpstyle ($9f3~ढ८~$0ffĦαѓďςtұlέ$F00_$FC0Јμмρςtұlέ<3)] bin
[2010/02/24 19:45:27] <chat> [hardstyle_jumpstyle ($9f3~ढ८~$0ffĦαѓďςtұlέ$F00_$FC0Јμмρςtұlέ<3)] odr so
[2010/02/24 19:46:17] <time> [hardstyle_jumpstyle ($9f3~ढ८~$0ffĦαѓďςtұlέ$F00_$FC0Јμмρςtұlέ<3)] 0:27.33
[2010/02/24 19:46:17] <chat> [space_3 ($t$o$F00Spacezone $00FMini $F80LOL)] $ff0>> $fff~ढ८~Ħαѓďςtұlέ_Јμмρςtұlέ<3$0f3 secured his/her $ff31$0f3. Local Record!  Time: $fff0:27.33$0f3 $n($ff31$fff-0.20$0f3)
[2010/02/24 19:46:17] <chat> [space_3 ($t$o$F00Spacezone $00FMini $F80LOL)] $ff0>> $fff~ढ८~Ħαѓďςtұlέ_Јμмρςtұlέ<3$0b3 gained the $ff39$0b3. Dedimania Record!  Time: $fff0:27.33$0b3 $n($ff311$fff-0.20$0b3)
[2010/02/24 19:46:26] <time> [black_smegol ($w$f11S$f43M$we$f00GoL^  $w$444ELITE)] 0:27.45

Same he did on a second server

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[2010/02/24 23:00:11] <chat> [black_smegol ($w$f11S$f43M$we$f00GoL^  $w$444ELITE)] /topdons
[2010/02/24 23:00:13] <answer> [black_smegol ($w$f11S$f43M$we$f00GoL^  $w$444ELITE)] 0
[2010/02/24 23:00:18] <chat> [black_smegol ($w$f11S$f43M$we$f00GoL^  $w$444ELITE)] /bet 7000
[2010/02/24 23:00:20] <chat> [black_smegol ($w$f11S$f43M$we$f00GoL^  $w$444ELITE)] /bet 20
[2010/02/24 23:00:22] <chat> [space_6 ($t$o$F00Spacezone $00FCrazy)] $ff0> $w$f11S$f43M$we$f00GoL^  $w$444ELITE$g$z$6c0$s$i set 7000 coppers for next bet!
[2010/02/24 23:00:23] <chat> [space_6 ($t$o$F00Spacezone $00FCrazy)] $ff0> $w$f11S$f43M$we$f00GoL^  $w$444ELITE$g$z$9c0$s$i accepted bet! Total win is 14000 coppers now!
[2010/02/24 23:03:47] <time> [black_smegol ($w$f11S$f43M$we$f00GoL^  $w$444ELITE)] 0:38.92
[2010/02/24 23:03:47] <chat> [space_6 ($t$o$F00Spacezone $00FCrazy)] $ff0>> $fffSMeGoL^  ELITE$0f3 claimed the $ff331$0f3. Local Record!  Time: $fff0:38.92
[2010/02/24 23:03:47] <chat> [space_6 ($t$o$F00Spacezone $00FCrazy)] $ff0> $ff0Remember to vote karma ($fff/++$ff0 or $fff/--$ff0) for this track
I banned this player now from the server , but nevertheless all my coppers are gone , is the any way to prevent this? Othewise i must deactivate the betting plugin.


So pay attention for this guy :
[black_smegol ($w$f11S$f43M$we$f00GoL^ $w$444ELITE)]


EDIT: I found out that the total amount he stole from my servers is over 20.000 coppers, i disabled the plugin for now, because its to unsave for me.


Well I can be mistaken as the autor wrote me, so if that is true i am sry for that. But whre are my coppers now? thats strange.
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Re: [Xaseco] Nouse Betting V1.4

Post by nouseforname » 26 Feb 2010 05:38

i think i know how this works, but i cant simulate it at my servers.

the first bet is 6k, the second is 20, but he use it to accept, so he have actually set 6020, and get 12k. ok thats a bug. but i cant simulate it atm, cause i am not fast enough, even the double click bug dont work for me, i cant imagine how to set a real chat command, two times in a row with diff values with this speed.


can somebody else test it too? i think thats still kinda this double click "bug". i guess it only happens at slower systems?! which also means servers with lots of players.

it seems that we have to sort out that double click thing, but i dont have an idea atm. will think about it. any idea/help highly appreciate.


edit: just got an idea how to simply avoid it, but need to test it, and as i said, i cant even get this double click thing atm. anybody who is willing to test it after i've modified it? pls pm me
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Re: [Xaseco] Nouse Betting V1.5 UPDATED

Post by Knutselmaaster » 26 Feb 2010 17:25

Maybe it's done with a macro?
That goes very quick...

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Re: [Xaseco] Nouse Betting V1.5 UPDATED

Post by nouseforname » 26 Feb 2010 17:29

Possible.


BTW i forgot to mension it here.


Version update to 1.5 done, hopefully fixed this doubleclick issue finally.

check first post
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Re: [Xaseco] Nouse Betting V1.5 UPDATED

Post by mixnetwork » 01 Mar 2010 14:13

HI,

I use the update now and everything work fine for me.

Nice work, I like it^^
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Re: [Xaseco] Nouse Betting V1.5 UPDATED

Post by nouseforname » 04 Mar 2010 16:54

i got 4 players from russia knowing another way how to get server coppers with the betting.

i still dont know how they do it, i just see many times /bet command which shouldnt be possible to use after the first time.

here are the players, logins and ip

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[03/04,10:20:29] << player 105 joined the game [alexdv_ars : $l[nrc-team.com]$i$fffnrc$l.$f00Air*~ : Russia : 45504 : 77.35.167.136]
[03/04,10:20:36] << player 104 joined the game [lolkem : $fffincognito : Russia : 114241 : 77.35.167.136]
[03/04,10:20:52] << player 103 joined the game [_ilnar : $w$fffnrc.$l[nrc-team.com]OliviaW$09fil$fffde : Russia : 12403 : 77.35.167.136]
[03/04,10:21:28] << player 102 joined the game [nada_s_4_ : $i$fffєя$f00ै〢$fffс$f00оО$fffсαוиє$f00.ятו : Russia : 17262 : 95.189.159.193]
so pls take care your coppers.
any hint to get a solution would be great.


here some chatlog from dedi directly, they didnt accept the bill, but there was an answer from server. anybody who know whats that means?

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[2010/03/04 10:29:26] <chat> [ue30power ($o$i$s$000ü30 $A00M$D00i$F00n$F00i$F30P$F60o$F90w$FC0e$FF0r)] $ff0> $f00$iYou don't have a Local Record on this track yet...
[2010/03/04 10:29:52] <answer> [nada_s_4_ ($i$fffєя$f00ै〢$fffс$f00оО$fffсαוиє$f00.ятו)] 27 378 505
[2010/03/04 10:29:52] <answer> [nada_s_4_ ($i$fffєя$f00ै〢$fffс$f00оО$fffсαוиє$f00.ятו)] 27 378 503
[2010/03/04 10:29:54] <chat> [ue30power ($o$i$s$000ü30 $A00M$D00i$F00n$F00i$F30P$F60o$F90w$FC0e$FF0r)] $ff0> $f00$iTransaction refused, no bet placed!
[2010/03/04 10:29:55] <answer> [nada_s_4_ ($i$fffєя$f00ै〢$fffс$f00оО$fffсαוиє$f00.ятו)] 27 378 505
[2010/03/04 10:29:57] <answer> [nada_s_4_ ($i$fffєя$f00ै〢$fffс$f00оО$fffсαוиє$f00.ятו)] 27 378 505
[2010/03/04 10:29:58] <chat> [ue30power ($o$i$s$000ü30 $A00M$D00i$F00n$F00i$F30P$F60o$F90w$FC0e$FF0r)] $ff0> $f00$iTransaction refused, no bet placed!
[2010/03/04 10:29:59] <answer> [nada_s_4_ ($i$fffєя$f00ै〢$fffс$f00оО$fffсαוиє$f00.ятו)] 27 378 505
[2010/03/04 10:29:59] <answer> [nada_s_4_ ($i$fffєя$f00ै〢$fffс$f00оО$fffсαוиє$f00.ятו)] 27 378 503
[2010/03/04 10:30:01] <answer> [nada_s_4_ ($i$fffєя$f00ै〢$fffс$f00оО$fffсαוиє$f00.ятו)] 27 378 505
[2010/03/04 10:30:02] <answer> [nada_s_4_ ($i$fffєя$f00ै〢$fffс$f00оО$fffсαוиє$f00.ятו)] 27 378 503
[2010/03/04 10:30:04] <chat> [ue30power ($o$i$s$000ü30 $A00M$D00i$F00n$F00i$F30P$F60o$F90w$FC0e$FF0r)] $ff0> $f00$iTransaction refused, no bet placed!
[2010/03/04 10:30:05] <answer> [nada_s_4_ ($i$fffєя$f00ै〢$fffс$f00оО$fffсαוиє$f00.ятו)] 27 378 505
[2010/03/04 10:30:05] <answer> [nada_s_4_ ($i$fffєя$f00ै〢$fffс$f00оО$fffсαוиє$f00.ятו)] 27 378 503
[2010/03/04 10:30:07] <answer> [nada_s_4_ ($i$fffєя$f00ै〢$fffс$f00оО$fffсαוиє$f00.ятו)] 27 378 505
[2010/03/04 10:30:10] <chat> [ue30power ($o$i$s$000ü30 $A00M$D00i$F00n$F00i$F30P$F60o$F90w$FC0e$FF0r)] $ff0> $f00$iTransaction refused, no bet placed!
[2010/03/04 10:30:11] <answer> [nada_s_4_ ($i$fffєя$f00ै〢$fffс$f00оО$fffсαוиє$f00.ятו)] 27 378 505
[2010/03/04 10:30:11] <answer> [nada_s_4_ ($i$fffєя$f00ै〢$fffс$f00оО$fffсαוиє$f00.ятו)] 27 378 503
[2010/03/04 10:30:13] <answer> [nada_s_4_ ($i$fffєя$f00ै〢$fffс$f00оО$fffсαוиє$f00.ятו)] 27 378 505
[2010/03/04 10:30:14] <chat> [ue30power ($o$i$s$000ü30 $A00M$D00i$F00n$F00i$F30P$F60o$F90w$FC0e$FF0r)] $ff0> $f00$iTransaction refused, no bet placed!
[2010/03/04 10:30:15] <answer> [nada_s_4_ ($i$fffєя$f00ै〢$fffс$f00оО$fffсαוиє$f00.ятו)] 27 378 505
[2010/03/04 10:30:15] <answer> [nada_s_4_ ($i$fffєя$f00ै〢$fffс$f00оО$fffсαוиє$f00.ятו)] 27 378 504
[2010/03/04 10:30:17] <answer> [nada_s_4_ ($i$fffєя$f00ै〢$fffс$f00оО$fffсαוиє$f00.ятו)] 27 378 505
[2010/03/04 10:30:17] <answer> [nada_s_4_ ($i$fffєя$f00ै〢$fffс$f00оО$fffсαוиє$f00.ятו)] 27 378 504
[2010/03/04 10:30:18] <answer> [nada_s_4_ ($i$fffєя$f00ै〢$fffс$f00оО$fffсαוиє$f00.ятו)] 27 378 505
[2010/03/04 10:30:19] <chat> [ue30power ($o$i$s$000ü30 $A00M$D00i$F00n$F00i$F30P$F60o$F90w$FC0e$FF0r)] $ff0> $f00$iTransaction refused, no bet placed!
[2010/03/04 10:30:20] <answer> [nada_s_4_ ($i$fffєя$f00ै〢$fffс$f00оО$fffсαוиє$f00.ятו)] 27 378 505
[2010/03/04 10:30:21] <answer> [nada_s_4_ ($i$fffєя$f00ै〢$fffс$f00оО$fffсαוиє$f00.ятו)] 27 378 503
[2010/03/04 10:30:22] <answer> [nada_s_4_ ($i$fffєя$f00ै〢$fffс$f00оО$fffсαוиє$f00.ятו)] 27 378 5

so there wasnt any active bet, and no winning payment, but somehow they managed to get server coppers anyway. i just dont know how that would be possible.
afaik (understand) this could be almost same with donate command.
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Re: [Xaseco] Nouse Betting V1.5 UPDATED

Post by dobesone » 05 Mar 2010 14:08

Hmm. Now I understand how I lost so many coppers.. Smegol was on my servers to :O
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Re: [Xaseco] Nouse Betting V1.5 UPDATED

Post by nouseforname » 05 Mar 2010 15:36

the "anser" is the ml id, i never recognized it in the dedi log before, thats why i was confused. tested it now.

but still no idea how they can get coppers by only using bet command several times without actually paying.
the bet command is doing the exact same like the donate command. both paying coppers to the server if player accept the bill.

anybody any idea how it could be possible?
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The bet thing evry 1 READ!

Post by Smegol » 05 Mar 2010 15:54

The thing with this bet Accept . i think its fun to bet with my self sometimes beacuse no 1 take my bets. and iu notice i lose some Cooper each Time of the Fee. but now this is beging strange pepole is Writing to me i took there Server cooopers i was like WTF i dodn*t know a clue how i did that. probably by betting aginst my self so i sent 9k cooper to this guy who comaplied about he lost his server coopers. and i read some of ur posted and its sayd u lost server cooper when u bet aginst ur self and i deeply sorry for that!. So dont write thing about me Steeling Cooper here u got the whole sorry!

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Re: The bet thing evry 1 READ!

Post by jamie_macdonald » 05 Mar 2010 16:04

Would this not be better of in the thread they mentioned you?

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Re: [Xaseco] Nouse Betting V1.5 UPDATED

Post by jamie_macdonald » 05 Mar 2010 16:05

explanation from smegol here:
viewtopic.php?f=127&t=24879

Wrong place but meh .. there it is lol

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