TrackMania Forever rules of ladder and formula

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Re: TrackMania Forever rules of ladder

Post by Slig » 19 Jul 2008 15:16

I just verified with the last dedicated (2008-07-18), and it is ok using that :

<ladder_serverlimit_max> 60000 </ladder_serverlimit_max>
<ladder_serverlimit_min> 40000 </ladder_serverlimit_min>

Zooz wrote:It usually takes a day or so to activate if you order a top ladder server. Just be patient :)
this afternoon i created an new dedicated account, then put it in 40K-60K, and few mlinutes later it worked. :D
Btw the server rank info in the game server list can take several minutes.

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Re: TrackMania Forever rules of ladder

Post by [RFR]DaD » 26 Jul 2008 19:03

There has to be a better solution than this. One way or another honest people get punished...either they cant join, or they won't get points if they arent ranked.

I'm all for punishing the boosters, but is this really a solution that works?

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Re: TrackMania Forever rules of ladder

Post by al2s » 15 Aug 2008 09:42

Florent wrote:1. Coppers are only deposit for hosts. If they break the rules, we keep the coppers.
2. Servers from 0 => 50000 are with any sort of rules you want, exactly like TMN
3. If you are 70 000 LP, you can enter any server under, but will win no points if above the max limit

mainly: the ladder is like before, but for very high rank players, you need to go on official servers. Those servers have rules to respect, like being public.

A bit late to quote, but I just found out that these days ...

It's absolutely o.k. that a "High-Rank" doesn't get Points on LOWER Severs ... but I find it fascinating how many Points a HIGHRANK can give to Players on LOWER Servers :shock:

For me - that's a sort of "passive Boosting" (maybe some guys may make this active - who knows ...) :ftw:

Why isn't there a limitation the other way, too? (I think it would be o.k. that all Players from 0-50.000 Points get Points from each other, but a Player with about 10.000 Points get's Points from a player with 80.000 Points, too???)

Wouldn't it be better to make Groups for example

Player with 0-50.000 points can only get points from Player with 0-60.000 points
Player with 50.000-60.000 points can only get points from Player with 50.000-70.000 points
Player with 60.000-70.000 points can only get points from Player with 60.000-80.000 points
Player with 70.000-80.000 points can only get points from Player with 70.000-90.000 points
and so on ...

This would make the whole thing slower to get up ... (I got up from about 38.000 to >70.000 in about 2 weeks and I don't drive every day and not the whole day --> I'm not "the fastest" driver anyway ... :pil )

With the actual System ... ladder-fun has gone 4 me ... Fun 4 driving with friends is the same as before ...

Maybe Nadeo could change something here :?: :?: :?:

What do you guys think? Am I wrong?

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Re: TrackMania Forever rules of ladder

Post by Zooz » 15 Aug 2008 11:09

Well, when a low rank beats a high rank driver, that's pretty good of them, right? So maybe he should get a lot of points for that.

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Re: TrackMania Forever rules of ladder

Post by wilameta » 16 Aug 2008 01:52

I like the grouping idea. :thumbsup:

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Re: TrackMania Forever rules of ladder

Post by Alinoa » 22 Aug 2008 11:13

Server rules have been edited on the first post :wink:
To add a server in your favorit list, copy this link in your game’s browser address bar
tmtp://#addfavourite=serverlogin

For direct hosting open to all, write <hide_server>1</hide_server> in the command line and use
tmtp://#join=serverlogin

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Re: TrackMania Forever rules of ladder

Post by Flyzone » 01 Oct 2008 22:15

hello all.

Probably someone has already made this question, but knowing little English, I haven't understood the answer….

I have opened a server 40k - 80k (Deposited 40k coppers)

I have added the strings :

<ladder_serverlimit_max> 80000 </ladder_serverlimit_max>
<ladder_serverlimit_min> 40000 </ladder_serverlimit_min>

in "config" of dedicatedserver, but in the list on TMUF it appears from 3 days like 40k-50k…. someone can help me?

I use Dedicated Server 2008-08-05 Version ...

The server's account isn't official, but registred under original account used in game.

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Re: TrackMania Forever rules of ladder

Post by princemichi » 01 Oct 2008 22:21

please check this:

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 	<masterserver_account>
		<login>YOUR_SERVER_LOGIN</login>
		<password>YOUR_SERVER_PASSWORD</password>
		<validation_key></validation_key>
	</masterserver_account>
if that´s the same you added in ... https://www.trackmania.com/tmf-ladderserver/

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Re: TrackMania Forever rules of ladder

Post by Flyzone » 01 Oct 2008 22:46

Thanks for youre answer :D

Little problem ....

<login>YOUR_SERVER_LOGIN</login>

i must insert Server Login, not official, or my login, official, like https://www.trackmania.com/tmf-ladderserver/ ??

<validation_key></validation_key>

Only last 3 carachters or complete code ??

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Re: TrackMania Forever rules of ladder

Post by princemichi » 02 Oct 2008 07:27

<login>YOUR_SERVER_LOGIN</login> YOUR LOGIN, named on the ladder-dedi-server-page: "Login" :D

<validation_key></validation_key> <<<<<<<this is not important! let it empty!

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Re: TrackMania Forever rules of ladder

Post by Flyzone » 02 Oct 2008 16:32

Nothing to do .....

All settings appears correct, but doesn't work...

even like 40k - 50k ....

any idea ?
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Re: TrackMania Forever rules of ladder

Post by princemichi » 02 Oct 2008 17:23

Flyzone wrote:hello all.

Probably someone has already made this question, but knowing little English, I haven't understood the answer….

I have opened a server 40k - 80k (Deposited 40k coppers)

I have added the strings :

<ladder_serverlimit_max> 80000 </ladder_serverlimit_max>
<ladder_serverlimit_min> 40000 </ladder_serverlimit_min>

in "config" of dedicatedserver, but in the list on TMUF it appears from 3 days like 40k-50k…. someone can help me?

I use Dedicated Server 2008-08-05 Version ...

The server's account isn't official, but registred under original account used in game.

thanks
do you have backspace-tabs in the serverlimit ak 40k and 80k?? server couldn´t read this!
if you have add this server it should nomaly no problem so start such an server!

my icq is 296002098, if you wants to send me dedicated_cfg.txt for check!

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Re: TrackMania Forever rules of ladder

Post by Flyzone » 02 Oct 2008 18:53

I added you on my icq ... thanks.

There are no spaces ... i give you my config for check ... is better :D
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Re: TrackMania Forever rules of ladder

Post by alnitak » 04 Oct 2008 21:55

Can someone from Nadeo please post up a full set of current rules, in a closed thread?

This'll help those teams like ours to figure out exactly what we've got to do without trawling through hundreds of comments and other stuff. We've seen loads of stuff about no full speed tracks, etc, and it's impossible to find out which class of servers those rules might or might not apply to.

thanks,.

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Re: TrackMania Forever rules of ladder

Post by Slig » 05 Oct 2008 11:40

alnitak wrote:Can someone from Nadeo please post up a full set of current rules, in a closed thread?
I have made a topic about it : viewtopic.php?f=28&t=18344

Btw it's more about how to setup a ladder server. The specific rules of each kind of ladder server are indicated on the PlayerPage, no need to put it in a topic as it will become obsolete if there is some change.

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