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Buying coppers...

Post by b09 » 23 Dec 2010 14:32

Hello is there some way how to buy coppers for real money? I need 80000c to create 90k server. I just bought united game i dont want wait 1 year to grow such amount

If there is not official way i would buy them from anybody who have it. I think 40€ would be fair... paypal prefered.

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Re: Buying coppers...

Post by Queen Jadis » 23 Dec 2010 18:44

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Re: Buying coppers...

Post by »Enryx« » 24 Dec 2010 09:50

Come on, this is just a game...
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Re: Buying coppers...

Post by b09 » 24 Dec 2010 11:26

Yes it's a game but I am missing 90k server with normal long maps with some slide inside. There are only thousends unplayeble united servers with that raelly, coast... super arcade sh*t (i really don't like sunrise sorry) and for stadium i can see only full speed servers with that long long loop and hoop and walls maps with no warm up lap. Yes there are some 1-3 super pro long tech servers but nobody there. Only playable server is a Nascar multilap server but maps there are only full speeds. Perhaps 2-3 maps are with a slide inside.
I was thinking to make a server, some multilaps and long maps but where you need to use brake too.
I have server so why not and I just need coppers thats all. I am playing the game for long but i have united account just for 2 weeks and for that 2 weeks a erned cca 1000c. So it's 500c for a week... 500*52 weeks = 260000 for a year. Ok with some benefits for server 26000*2 = 52 000c for a year :(

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Re: Buying coppers...

Post by smwforever45 » 24 Dec 2010 12:50

I have to disagree a bit on your calculation.

If you have both a TMO and a TMS key, you get 80 coppers a day. Let's say a month has 30 days, so it's 80*30 = 2400 coppers a month.
If you only have a TMS key, it's 70*30 = 2100 coppers a month.
If you only have a TMO key, it's still 60*30 = 1800 coppers a month.
And if you neither have a TMO nor a TMS key, the maximum you can reach is 50*30 = 1500 coppers a month.
And you can get 100 coppers extra every Monday if you go to Maniazones then. (To do that, just click on one of the topics above the "Discover Nations" and "Discover United" buttons. After the topic shows up on TM, click on the title on the top, below "ManiaZones". And vice versa, you just earned 100 coppers.)
You can do that every Monday, and because most months have four Mondays, it's 100*4 = 400 coppers extra a month.

So that makes up following:
=> TMO + TMS key: 2400C+400C = 2800C a month
=> TMS key: 2100C+400C = 2500C a month
=> TMO key: 1800C+400C = 2200C a month
=> neither TMO nor TMS: 1500C+400C = 1900C a month

Let's go back to days again:

=> TMO + TMS key: 2800C/30 = 93,333C a day
=> TMS key: 2500C/30 = 83,333C a day
=> TMO key: 2200/30 = 73,333C a day
=> neither TMO nor TMS: 1900C/30 = 63,333C a day

A year has 365 days, and so the maximum amount of coppers you can reach in a year is:

=> TMO + TMS key: (2800C/30)*365 = (2800C*365)/30 = 34.066,66C a year
=> TMS key: (2500C/30)*365 = (2500C*365)/30 = 30.416,66C a year
=> TMO key: (2200C/30)*365 = (2200C*365)/30 = 26.766,66C a year
=> neither TMO nor TMS; (1900C/30)*365 = (1900C*365)/30 = 23.116,66C a year

Now let's see how many years you need to be able to create the server. You already have 1000C, so we can subtract that from the 80000C.

=> TMO + TMS key: 79000C/34.066,66C ~ 2,319 years
=> TMS key: 79000C/30.416,66C ~ 2,597 years
=> TMO key: 79000C/26.766,66C ~ 2,951 years
=> neither TMO nor TMS: 79000C/23.116,66C ~ 3,41 years

Let's convert the years into days now:

=> TMO + TMS key: 2,319 years*365 ~ 846,4 days
=> TMS key: 2,597 years*365 ~ 947,9 days
=> TMO key: 2,951 years*365 ~ 1077,1 days
=> neither TMO nor TMS: 3,41 years*365 ~ 1244,65 days

Because only complete days count and because you neither have TMO nor TMS, it will take 1245 days until you can create the 90k server. If someone donates you something or you win coppers in contests or in official mode, the remaining time might also be a bit shorter. If you get many coppers, I'd say you will have to wait about 1.5 to 2.5 years until you can make the server.

Also, nice idea with the server ^^
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Re: Buying coppers...

Post by b09 » 25 Dec 2010 15:06

hehe thanks! :thumbsup:

sorry i forget dirty servers or how they call it cross but the mod is too bugy to play it seriously.
check TOP100 rank... cca80-90% of guys are sunrise players and some of them play dirty maps.
for me like old tmn player trackmania means stadium and asphalt stadium. why the best players have rank 150103th? i mean best skilled players...

i like trackmania and i will always but the system is little stupid and unfair for players like me.

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Re: Buying coppers...

Post by smwforever45 » 27 Dec 2010 18:38

b09 wrote:hehe thanks! :thumbsup:
No problem ^^
sorry i forget dirty servers or how they call it cross but the mod is too bugy to play it seriously.
Those landings on dirt are indeed luck. You need much of that if you don't want your speed to go down rapidly if you land on dirt.
But a few skill can help there too... just look at some replays of pro players and see what their secret is ^^
check TOP100 rank... cca80-90% of guys are sunrise players and some of them play dirty maps.
Because the Sunrise environments are probably the ones where you can get the most LP's because they are the most played ones... in my opinion.
To proof that: I was rank 6xx worldwide once (and that's no joke, really!). Guess why? Because of Coast. It was an environment where I was able to get many ladder points. The Coast servers were always full of people, especially pros, and because I have much skill in that environment, the LP's came easily.
I also played other environments online, but there was none where I could get more LP's than on Coast.
why the best players have rank 150103th? i mean best skilled players...
Why best players? The best players are in the Top 1000 or something like that... Not on the 150103rd rank. Except if you mean Nations players - because those can't go over 50k LP anymore unless they add a 60k, 70k, 80k or 90k server to their favorites. I know that's quite unfair, but you know what Florent said about what happened with Microsoft. They had to do that.
i like trackmania and i will always but the system is little stupid and unfair for players like me.
I know it's hard for people who can't drive as well as the Top 100 drivers to get more than 90k LP. But I think that's what the system is for. You have to learn from the real pros to be a pro too one day.
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Re: Buying coppers...

Post by pobmaestro » 27 Dec 2010 23:14

I agree that you shouldn't spend your hard earned cash on buying coppers from someone. Reason I say this is because I believe the core Trackmania community to be a kind and caring one, so I'm sure if you just create a thread asking for donations, big or small, with what you need and why you need them, then maybe you will have more luck.

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Re: Buying coppers...

Post by b09 » 28 Dec 2010 00:30

fortget it... you did not get what i wanted to say :)

and btw check sometimes some cup results (ESL etc.) who are the best drivers. also check Frostbeule's rank... oh you don't know who is he? what a pity :roflol:
you can find me in the results too :pil
I agree that you shouldn't spend your hard earned cash on buying coppers from someone. Reason I say this is because I believe the core Trackmania community to be a kind and caring one, so I'm sure if you just create a thread asking for donations, big or small, with what you need and why you need them, then maybe you will have more luck.
i don't think it's something immoral to spend money for something like that. i have the cash, i have server. i want create 90k non fullspeed, dirt and sunrise server. i need coppers and this is the only way how to get them and not in 2 years.
of corse it would be nice if nadeo have possibility to buy coppers from them but they don't. their mistake and that's why they must do something like this. coming with such dramatic changes few days before christmas. yes i played tmn for years with no payed account. i did not need it. changing car skin, avatar is not for me and playing the sunrise? i would prefer playing Grand Prix Circuit from Accolade than that arcade.
by the way i have key for years but the account where i used it i dont play. you can guess why but do not do it. : :scene:

I already have 2 offer. thanks!

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Re: Buying coppers...

Post by kjc24 » 14 Jan 2011 05:56

Guys.. I will also pay for coppers... looking for at least 100k

Screw those who think it's immoral :D

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Re: Buying coppers...

Post by Queen Jadis » 14 Jan 2011 13:41

You can pay for coppers by buying another game but simply buying coppers with real money is one of the poorest things I ever heard. Get a life, man.
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Re: Buying coppers...

Post by kjc24 » 14 Jan 2011 13:57

Queen Jadis wrote:You can pay for coppers by buying another game but simply buying coppers with real money is one of the poorest things I ever heard. Get a life, man.
I don't really give a flying %% what you think I should or should not do with my money or my time. I would rather spend a few months driving official times than spending another 50 quid on a game I will play for an hour and get bored of.

And if you think buying coppers is poor, clearly you haven't played TF2 where people pay much more money for superficial clothing.

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Re: Buying coppers...

Post by Queen Jadis » 14 Jan 2011 14:43

kjc24 wrote:I don't really give a flying %% what you think I should or should not do with my money or my time. I would rather spend a few months driving official times than spending another 50 quid on a game I will play for an hour and get bored of.
Now, that was a clear portion of American arrogance. I really don't want to know anything about how corrupt you are, so keep these things for yourself and stop boasting about it in a public forum.
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Re: Buying coppers...

Post by kjc24 » 14 Jan 2011 17:44

Queen Jadis wrote:
kjc24 wrote:I don't really give a flying %% what you think I should or should not do with my money or my time. I would rather spend a few months driving official times than spending another 50 quid on a game I will play for an hour and get bored of.
Now, that was a clear portion of American arrogance. I really don't want to know anything about how corrupt you are, so keep these things for yourself and stop boasting about it in a public forum.
Haha! That's very presumptious of you. I am actually Scottish and only moved to the USA a couple of years ago.

You're the one throwing stereotypes about Americans and assertions about me somehow "boasting" about something (wtf?) or being "corrupt" for paying for coppers. Hyperbole much? I just put out a simple request and you just had to be a whiney so and so about it.

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Re: Buying coppers...

Post by Queen Jadis » 14 Jan 2011 23:03

kjc24 wrote:Haha! That's very presumptious of you. I am actually Scottish and only moved to the USA a couple of years ago.
I should have known. Well, nice to see a fellow Scot here.

As for the coppers, you can't expect anyone to give them to you, not even for money. Why not try to earn them yourself?

Is this thread supposed to be some sort of copper exchange? IMO that's not just totally unfair towards the other players, it's also completely against the spirit of the game. This is certainly not what it was made for.
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